I still haven't read Pattern Recognition
because I wanted to read older works first.
Anyone has read it ? Is it worth a try ?
The September 11 thing makes it look like
a soap opera at first sight.
cheers,
vruz
because I wanted to read older works first.
Anyone has read it ? Is it worth a try ?
The September 11 thing makes it look like
a soap opera at first sight.
cheers,
vruz
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Mon, December 22, 2003 - 9:57 AMyeah its worth reading. however, i can't decide if it would be better to read his other works first...PR is very different from his previous books.
if your new to cyberpunk, id say start with PR. his other works do not so closely parallel our world.
So, yeah read it. be prepared for a change of pace when you pick up 'neuromancer' or 'count zer0' etc...
Sept.11 is used in a realistic context...its personal effect on one small person...certainly not soap-operatic.
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Tue, December 23, 2003 - 12:00 PMThough I don't think I can be classified strictly as a Gibson fan,
I've already read Neuromancer, Mona Lisa Overdrive, Virtual
Light and the steampunk book Gibson co-wrote with Sterling, "The
Differential Engine".
I will have a look at PR, if it's soap-opera-less, at least it sounds intriguing.
Thanks !!
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Sun, January 11, 2004 - 3:04 PMThat's funny that you say it's different from his other books...I thought when I read it that it was more like I guess Virtual Light (? I think that's the one I mean), and less like Idoru. But for the same reasons you say, that it is so much closer to reality. I liked it a lot, and was happy to get back to grown-up characters and more realistic stuff. Not that I don't love the other stuff too!!
It's all good.
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Wed, January 14, 2004 - 12:29 PMI though PR was a very good book. It was set a little closer to our time and not so far in the future. The 9-11 thing involved the main characters father, but was not visited in so much detail that it was a major part of the book. Mainly an event in the not so distant past. I would highly recommend PR if you liked Gibson's other books. -
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Thu, April 29, 2004 - 2:51 PMI just finished reading it... definitely good. Personally, I would have preferred something set not so close to our time, but that's just my thing.
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Fri, April 23, 2004 - 8:16 PMBTW...got this from E! Online - Warner Bros. has optioned Pattern Recognition for a big-screen treatment under the masterful hand of Peter Weir (Truman Show, Master & Commander).
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Fri, April 30, 2004 - 12:58 PMwarnerbros village road show , or what ever .. did the matrix , i know this is not the same directors ..
but the combo of a good story, i have yet to read it , but i hear its pretty good , and the company that brought us the matrix .. it will be interesting to see what happens ..
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Thu, May 20, 2004 - 9:09 AMi read it a couple months ago. i liked it. i really liked the style in which it was written, so very jumpy...like after having too much caffine:) -
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Thu, May 20, 2004 - 1:34 PMi am going to start on it soon ...
vancouver really is a "i've had too much caffiene city"
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Fri, May 21, 2004 - 11:55 AMI'm surprised at the comment of PR being unlike his other works... I feel that he has been drifting off a bit into commercial territory since VL (Altho I have enjoyed them all since)... The Sprawl Cycle was more gritty, arty, and I guess I would characterize PR as being more artistic than the Bridge Trilogy (Is that what we're calling them? I can't remember.) I don't think that one needs to read any of his prior works before pattern recognition, altho I'm biased as I've read them all. Don't get me wrong, Gibson is my favorite author and Neuromancer has been my favorite novel since I was a kid. -
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Thu, June 24, 2004 - 6:52 PMSprawl saga was written near 25 years ago too. He didn't even have a computer until MLO, and then it was aan Apple ][e, which disappointed him a lot when he had to put a floppy in to boot it to a prompt.
I mean face it... he's getting old.
His writing however, is getting better. I'm digging PR. A lot.
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Fri, June 25, 2004 - 4:40 AMPR is definately worth the read. Gibson's writing shines through as spectacularly as it does in all his other books. PR is an updated cyberpunk of a differant sort. Updated to fit with our current history and technology.
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Thu, August 26, 2004 - 4:26 AMYes, PR is definitely worth a read. I've read it 3 times, just to make sure I didn't miss anything, and I think there are some subtleties I still haven't picked up on yet. It was an excellent book with a charming pace, and show's Gibson's true caliber as a multi-faceted artist. He's coming of age, and I can't wait for the next one.
-Chris
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Fri, October 8, 2004 - 4:47 PMI feel its solidly in the "good" category, with well developed characters, an edgy subplot and a realistic and informed treatment of the world political situation.
Its definitely not Sci Fi, in fact I'm pretty sure its not intended to be.... anyone disagree?
And I feel that does make it different than a lot of his other works... and as a dramatic mystery it is, to many readers, less compelling. Less well written? absolutely not!
However, one of the things I've always loved about Gibson's Sci Fi is his vision of a future where human nature remained unchanged. High tech awash in drugs, poverty, litter.... and crime.
As to a movie... did anyone see "The New Rose Hotel" with Christopher Walken? hurl! I think the Warner folks could probably give it good treatment... but remember Kenau was in Johnny Mnemonic and the Matrix, but that didn't make it a decent movie!
I've thought a lot about what was wrong with both films and all I've come up with is that the director had now way to capture the drama and wonder of the action inside the network.... inside the computer.... maybe that has advanced. some. but PR is going to be an easy action/drama to make by comparison.
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Thu, January 13, 2005 - 4:37 AMDamn!!
I just discovered that the concept of a "coolhunter" wasn't invented by Gibson, but rather Malcolm Gladwell, in this article: gladwell.com/1997/1997_03_17_a_cool.htm
Gibson really is an admirable cultural magpie. There's some other stuff in Pattern Recognition that he's appropriated from elsewhere, but I can't remember what just now. -
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Thu, January 13, 2005 - 5:25 AMi think the general idea has been around alot longer though ..
isn't it abstractly related to pop culture , top ten lists etc.
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Wed, January 19, 2005 - 11:54 PMIt's an old idea, but I think Gibson's approch was different.
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Thu, January 20, 2005 - 7:42 AMEverything is an old idea, but Gibson's approach is _not_ different, which you will definitely notice if you read the article. The phrase "cool hunter" and the methods Gladwell used to describe exactly how somebody determines (or rather intuits) what is cool are exactly similar to Gibson's description of what Cayce does, and how.
Gibson also lifted a description of curta calculators pretty much verbatim. I discovered this when I was obsessed with them some months back. You can ascertain this for yourself also with a brief google session.
One of things I've always admired about Gibson is that he's a consummate cool hunter himself--he has an incredibly sharp eye for currents of fashion. But for the most part, he records; he does not originate. Neuromancer is a counter-example, since some of the earlier development and conception of the net as a subversive frontier in the early '90s came from that book.
Ideas circulate, is all. They don't come from any one place. He _knows_ that--hence the obsessive hunts for creative origins in most of his books: the Cornell box artist in Count Zero, the Intelligence in Mona Lisa Overdrive, the author of the footage in Pattern Recognition--all of which turn out to be literary McGuffins, as origins, as it turns out, are never really original.
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Thu, March 10, 2005 - 5:50 PMGibson's Pattern Recognition is to Neuromancer what Stephenson's Cryptonomicon is to Snow Crash. Wired magazine best describes PR as "William Gibson unplugged". Personally, I have yet to read any bad Gibson. So, yeah, PR is worth a try. -
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Thu, March 10, 2005 - 5:51 PM>> Gibson's Pattern Recognition is to Neuromancer what Stephenson's Cryptonomicon is to Snow Crash.
in terms of era, but the two are inverted in terms of relative quality. Neuromancer was, IMHO, easily Gibson's best work, and Cryptonomicon was just, well... stunning, easily overtaking Snow Crash.
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Thu, March 24, 2005 - 9:09 PMFancy going to a W-B fan club to ask if one of his books are good! pfft, I thought it was a terrible read, it was very nearly one of those select few I refuse to finish (but unfortunately I ran out of books and had to fall back on it). I do not recommend it, and I advise to burn it on sight, urinate on the ashes and throw them out to sea.
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Thu, March 24, 2005 - 9:11 PMAnd to that post above, W-B = W-G. Apparantly i had bees on the mind, which is strange for me since there is not a bird in sight.
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Sun, April 24, 2005 - 3:25 AMLittle harsh...
I enjoyed it. It reminded me a bit of the orbital story in Count Zero though. He never really explainedwhat that whole thing was very well, so I think this might have been him rehashing it in detail with The Footage.
Donno. EIther way, it was cool, his real life tie ins were quite well, and his use of viral marketing was beautiful. I'm finding his use of Techno-Alergies to be comical. First the guy in Virtual Light, and naw Cayce.
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Sun, July 9, 2006 - 8:57 AMPlenty have people have given reasons why you should read it. I'm sure the reason I would have put forward is in there to. It's a good read.
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Sat, February 16, 2008 - 4:07 AMI found PR to be too contrived at the end, it was not Gibson's best work anyway (Mona Lisa Overdrive has that slot for me).
I suffer psychotic breaks triggered by certain aspects of music, so could empathise with Cayce,but at the end she was cured. i am not sure that if I could make as much money as she does from my illness that I would like to be 'cured'.
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Re: Pattern Recognition, worth a try ?
Thu, May 1, 2008 - 4:38 PMI am Pattern Recognition. :)
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